Bloop should have a limit!

How about not reading the diaries you assume to be of young mothers [or, the way you perceive the majority of them to be]?
So we need shun certain groups of people? How about averting your eyes, find someone else to read?
Or how about shunning judgmental people, that would lighten the server load too.

l'etoile

Wow. Thanks for bashing me, too.

Community college? How about you not be so close minded or judgmental, yourself? Maybe some of us go to a community college because that is what we WANTED to do. I happen to be married. And I work full time. I go to a community college because the classes work with my hours. Did I mention I work at a "real" place where I actually have to know my stuff? Oh.. and I own a home, two newer cars and I am able to pay my bills. Is it wrong for me to be one of those people who want to use clothe diapers or breast milk? Hmm. I think not.

Why should bloop have a limit because there are diaries that you don't want to read? If that is the case... DON'T read them! Find another diary! It really is a simple solution.

I think, if you have issues with welfare people, you should maybe find a better way to vent about it instead of making a general assumption about people. People who mooch off of the system piss me off too, but there are better ways to vent.


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[Love, Rebekah|0 likes] [|reply]

I agree..

here here! i'm a stay at home wife by CHOICE. i left my job because they were a bunch of asshats and disrespected and lied to their employees. i don't have a completed college education because my husband joined the military and was stationed in japan, so i LEFT school for him. my bills are paid, i have a roof over my head, food in my fridge, and clothes on my back. i'm so sick of the higher than thou attitude most people have! it's disgusting. how bout we stop judging other people and just deal with our own shit and mind our own damned business! xoxo

Based on your reply here, I don't think the statements in this entry were venting about moms like you.

No, I'm not a mom so I have no reason to speak about that part. What has me upset is the snide little comment about going to a community college and not caring about your education because of it.

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[Love, Rebekah|0 likes] [|reply]

My reply was to Amber Rae, not you. I guess you got the notification too because her comment was a reply to yours.

gotcha

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[Love, Rebekah|0 likes] [|reply]

Like! You're exactly right, especially about Community College!

Aubrey;

lmao, if ur gonna talk shit, get ur facts straight!! Not every TEEN/YOUNG mother is on walfare.. Plus this is BloopSecrets not Dear Anonomyous!!

I love how stay-at-home moms MUST be on government assistance. My husband works his ass off to pay our bills, we have a roof over our heads, food in our cabinets.. all paid by us. The only "assistance" we have is state insurance for our daughter bc my husband's company does not have insurance(not a dipshit job, he does HVAC work, working on obtaining his HVAC license to start his our company on the side). That make us bad parents? I think not.

Besides, wouldn't I be a bad mom pushing my child into childcare? you know, having others raise my kid besides me?.. you can NEVER win in this battle, damned if you do, damned if you dont.

also just for ur information, most retail jobs/mcdonalds offer maternity leave AND insurence!! Every "non professional" job I've had offered insurence AND maternity leave. Again, either get ur facts straight or stop talking shit b.c u sound extremely ignorrant!!!!

My job at a VET doesn't offer insurance. And maternity leave (paid) is iffy, too.

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[Love, Rebekah|0 likes] [|reply]

lmao, "the only thing you have to go back to is high school." that part made me laugh.. on the other hand, i became a mom when i was 13. i graduated high school on time, i made good grades, i was in college for a while until i decided that i wanted to be at home with the kids, and now i'm working part time just to get out of the house for a bit. i'm thankful that my husband can support me & our THREE kids. yes, THREE KIDS. and i'm 21. suck it.

not to mention, and i'm not trying to brag, but we own our own home, own two cars that are fully paid off, and have extra money to spends. we're doing better than hell of a lot of people our age. and you know why? because we fucking worked for it.

you rock Brooke! just sayin .

mrs mandy moo

thank you ma'am

Would you be able to do it if, for some unforeseen reason, your husband lost his job? Do you ever feel bad that the burden of the household budget is primarily on his shoulders?

Emily the Strange

actually yes, i would be able to make it if my husband lost his job. we don't rely on his money, so he has no burden on his shoulders. he was the one who told me i didn't have to work, because he can gladly support me & the kids. not to mention, i have a nice chunk of money in savings, and we pay our bills a few months at at time.

you are probably the biggest ignorant piece of crap out there. How can you judge young mothers? Are you one? This is a diary website where people come to write about their lives. Realistically mothers do not have outlets in their real life and needs places like bloop to be a refuge. I left my career in the military to be with my son, granted I was unemployed, I was also a SAHM mom. I talked about breastfeeding all the time because other moms on here breastfeed. I also wanted other women who may be thinking about breastfeeding to feel like they could talk to someone if they needed info or support since in today's society BFing is very much shunned. I also tried cloth diapering and alot of other things. I was never on welfare. I collected WIC while my son was on formula and that was all. I go to school and I work in a bank. I also teach zumba and work in a nutrition club. So what if I want to talk about my son on my damn diary, it is my damn diary. If you don't like the people on this site get the hell off of it.

I love this site and the screening process should exclude bigots like you. Sorry but I am tired of the mom bashing on this site. We as moms dont go around bashing the other groups.

[Mami 2 ♥ 1|0 likes] [|reply]

Based on what I read here, I think Bloop should have a limit on how many idiots they allow on this site as well. Especially idiots who don't have kids and don't know what it's like to support a child, and how expensive it can actually be. People who judge those of us who stay at home with our kids piss me off.

oh or how about the idoits who take for granted the fact that they have children and the ability to reproduce. stop and think about how some of us "upstanding citizens" CAN'T have children of our own. think about that when you bitch about your kids...xoxo

hahaha Krystle...I agree, people should be required to take an IQ test to join this site....lol

[Greta Garbage|0 likes] [|reply]

but bloop would be closed down .

mrs mandy moo

oh yeah, that's true! No wonder we don't do that! lol

[Greta Garbage|0 likes] [|reply]

Not that you are even justified an answer... but I'll humor this.

I had my first child at 16. Got my GED. Went back to school, have a degree. I work in a professional office environment. I am currently pregnant with my 3rd child. Still working full time.. still paying my bills!
I am entitled to a 3 month maternity leave from my job, which will be paid for.
My husband and I live in a 3 bedroom house in a very good neighborhood, my oldest son goes to a great public school, and my 3 yr old goes to a private daycare that we pay $700 for a month, out of our own pocket.
We are on absolutely no sort of government assistance, nor have we ever been.

Not all young parents are as bad as you may think, and if you have such a problem with them, then don't read their diaries. Simple fix!
I'll say an extra prayer for you tonight

ღ.Expecting #3

Wow. Judgemental, much?

hey.. breastmilk is free

Just shut up. Shut UP about breastmilk. I was adopted and allergic to formula, so I got soy. Not every mother and child can breasfeed, so shut up.

lighten up! i was replying to the post saying how welfare pays for everything! welfare doesnt pay for breastmilk! noone does! (unless maybe theres a situation involving a third party and you're buying it for whatever reason)

whats that got to do with whether you were breastfed or formula fed! i don't care as long as you were fed!

juuuust making sure you aren't one of those closed-minded lactards. =]

LOL lactard.

no, they cant, and there is an immense amount of pressure on women to BF. a friend of mine became depressed after the birth of her first child and a good chunk of it was because she couldnt BF. doesnt mean its evil tho.. it is better for bub if you can manage it. and it IS free
but you are right.. people do get feral about it. and its not good for those that cant..

mrs mandy moo

Thank you!

You're a bit of a douche, if you don't mind me saying.

Lol why are all of the "amazing" teen mothers justifying themseles to a random idiot? You really think your life will change this person's mind?

Emily the Strange

maybe not.. but maybe it's worth putting it out there so that some poor kid that comes to this entry can see that becoming a teen Mum isnt the end of the world. not always the easiest way, or the best choice.. but that it can be worked with, that we can become sucessful adults after a teen birth. that we dont have to accept the role society seems determined to shove on us.
that our kids dont have to be little underfed ferals.. that we can make it.
Im living proof. I have a profession, my now 19 yo has stayed out of trouble and was even school dux (valedictorian?)
he's at uni himself. not that academic acheivement is the only hallmark of success... but its against what society seemed to tell me I would acheive in the early 90s.
Not much has changed.
So.. if one young girl or guy reads this, and sees that you can still make it as a teen mum, or as a single mum.. then its worth taking 5 minutes to type this out.
I dont care much about the person that wrote it.. you are right, they wont change... or not for a while. maybe age will humble them, make them a bit more understanding of the human condition.
I write because I DO care about the people who will come and read..

mrs mandy moo

I was a teen mom. Not now. I'm 25. Married. Sahm. I have a degree and could go back to work. My Husband makes really good money.. so I stay home. I think you should mind your own. Most of the teen Mom diaries I have read don't even do the above-mentioned.

[*-.Stephanie.-* |0 likes] [|reply]

wow....lmao. i had a really long comment but I had to start over cuz this just isnt worth the time explaining. I am one of these STAY AT HOME MOTHERS....I think this is stupid....getta life instead of posting SECERT entries

i, for one, want to know about all these welfare mothers!

if you are one of the people mentioned in this entry, please come read me and tell me--- so i can read you, too!

LN

"Most bloop parents should have their children taken from them."

"Stay at home mom's usually have degrees, and careers to go back to."

So much lol. xD

[lithium layouts.|0 likes] [|reply]

See??? It's why I don't understand how so many people are on the offense! This stuff is funny!

Emily the Strange

This is amazing. I love how people feel the need to justify themselves here.

[Beautiful Lies|0 likes] [|reply]

Just like you have your opinions, stay at home mothers do too. I am a stay at home mother, with opnions, but unlike you I do not stereotype everyone into categories. Not all stay at home mothers, young or old, ive on welfare to get through. You claim we are "activists", we express our OPINIONS, and may say why we think these things are best for babies etc. If you don't want to read about young mothers and their struggles, nobody forces you to. If you don't agree, don't read, it's that simple!

Someone pissed in your wheaties this morning, didn't they?

[♥MamaJen|0 likes] [|reply]

apparently most of these commenters can't smell a troll from a mile away.

Cloth diapers save money, and breastmilk is not an "item" you can buy. Those are pretty terrible examples of frivolous parenting.

Christina - Have I told you I loved you today? lol

Amen!

Heh. Sometimes those diaries can be a little...Much. But it's a lot easier to just not read them if they bother you that much. It'll save you a lot of frustration!

you ever think about....oh i don't know, blocking these diarist you don't like? Just sayin.

Imho, if a sahm is on welfare or using wic & don't work, then more then likely there's a legit reason for it. I worked in a grocery store for a little over a year. All the men & women that came through using wic had good jobs but because of the economy they couldn't afford to pay their bills & pay the high prices of certain baby foods. I applaud them for sucking it up & doing what they needed to do to make sure they got what they needed for their family. Sure there are probably some out there that abuse the system, but that doesn't give you, me, or anyone else the right to clump the good sahm with the ones that aren't

How about you exit out of those diaries that annoy you if you don't want to read them? It's easy enough to click on the HOME link. Noone forces you to read it. How judgemental are you! You're making assumptions and putting everyone in the same basket! Why should there be a limit on the amount of diaries ONE person doesn't want to read? It's people like you that boggle my mind and makes me want to scream. This site is for EVERYONE, and we are all allowed to write about whatever we please, but I think bashing other people for how they live their life, without knowing the first thing about them is very low. PS: I'm none of the things you described in this post, so I'm not defending myself. Your post just irked me as a whole, for the principle.

Gosh, clearly the Bloop mommies are as uneducated as you say, because in their rantings, none of them has mentioned your errant apostrophe! The plural of mom is moms. Not mom's.

But how exciting! Bloop Secrets is going the way of Dear Anon! Poor Stevie will get hundreds of tickets from Bloopers declaring they are leaving Bloop unless Bloop Secrets is shut down, because they don't feel safe and secure when unnamed Bloopers out there are mocking them!

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

BTW, what exactly is 'Community College' - like, that's what Sheldon is always mocking Penny about! Is it like a vocational college for people who don't make the grades to get into uni?

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

Community College is kind of like "regular" college, but students don't live on campus, and it is more vocationally focused. And they generally accept everyone who applies, and tuition is cheaper. It's not just for "stupid" people, though, and I hate when it's implied that only dumb people go to community college.

Aubrey;

Gosh, in an odd sort of way it sounds like the Open University! Do you get a degree at the end of it?

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

Yes. Usually you only get an Associate's degree.
OR you can take classes there to start with (for cheaper) and then transfer the class credits when you transfer to a 4-year college.

Aubrey;

Ah. So actually, it's a practical choice, finances wise. A way to reach the same ends more frugally. Like doing a diploma in nursing, where you get a higher bursary than if you do the degree, and then doing a quick top up at the end to turn it into a degree.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

Oh yeah, it's a really smart choice if you can't afford a 4-year college right off. Your comparison to nursing sounds about right to me.

Aubrey;

May I just say how I love that you used a reference to The Big Bang theory in order to ask about community college. lol.

Haha - I'm British, so Big Bang Theory is my only frame of reference for community colleges! I've never heard of them elsewhere! They are represented by Penny in my mind!

Back in the day, in the UK, higher education was divided into 'universities' and 'polytechnics' - with the same sort of division and attitudes - although then it got changed and they're all called universities now, because of the prejudice and snobbery that was happening! Although you still get the die-hards referring to 'ex-polytechnics' and 'redbrick universities'.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

Community colleges aren't just technical universities like the other commenter mentioned. They more like university prep schools. They are great for transitioning from secondary school/high school to university, especially for those students who aren't great with time management, or didn't have the best grades, or just didn't have the money to afford a 4 year institution right off the bat. They are also great for people who don't know what they want to major in.

They do offer technical degree programs (associates in nursing, auto-body, pre-veterinary), but they also offer the core courses that you would need to take at any university (calculus, English, physics, chemistry, biology, etc). So instead of paying the high priced tuition at a university, you can take your core courses in community college, and then transfer once you have a better idea of what you want to major in. Or you can do like I did, and take some classes there during the summer to supplement your university courses at a cheaper price and graduate from university a year early.

Or you could do as one of the others said and just graduate with an associates degree after 2 years instead of transferringn to a university. Then you always have the option to go back to a 4 year school for a bachelors later (which would typically only take 2 years after you have your associates).

The only problem with community college is that they are state schools. And so if you move from one state to another, not all of your credits are guaranteed to transfer to another community college or even another state university.

Ah, okay. A bit like a further education college as well then.

It's handy in the UK not having different states. 'State school' means something very different here - it means an elementary or secondary school which is funded by the government - so not a private school or a church funded school. What you would call 'public school'.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

I just realized that you were one of the people that Valerie said was one of her favorite must-reads on here. I'm Lori. Nice to meet you.

Oh - haha! Hi! I've never come across you before this, but nice to meet you too. Hope you can handle my political views being different from yours.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

I enjoy meeting people with other views. It enables me to learn and grow. If everyone I was friends with believed the same thing as me, I would never feel the need to challenge my thought process and reevaluate things. I'm good, but I'm not so good that I'm right all of the time. lol. I may get annoyed with some people's views, but if they are TRUE friends, I know that we can agree to disagree and do so respectfully without compromising the friendship.

Okay, great. Hehe - I love how this entry has got totally side-tracked from Bloop mommies and moved onto community colleges and taxes!

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

Well, you had me at Penny and Sheldon. The entire comment list vastly improved from that point on!

meh, I was a cloth nappying, breastfeeding single mother who never had a visit from protective services or had trouble housing myself and my child. I also didnt have an education. I got one, at the expense of the govt.. and have paid it back many times over since in taxes.
dont make sweeping accusations and generalisations about people. its just ignorant and prejudiced.
Three of the best young people that I know were brought up by single Mums that got their education after they gave birth.
people do make mistakes. Im sure you have too.
I hope you can be a bit more forgiving to yourself when your life doesnt go to plan either.

mrs mandy moo

Just curious as to how you are having to pay back the expense of your education many times over in taxes? Interest on student loans are tax deductible.

Probably income tax. It's the same for me. The government paid for my tuition - for both degrees (no student loans - like, tuition fees paid by people's taxes). When I work, I am paying income tax, which goes towards other people's degrees - and a variety of other things.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

well then techincally it's not really fair for you to say that you've paid to back many times over in taxes, because you would have paid those taxes regardless. That logic would let people on welfare say that they've paid for their welfare many times over from the taxes from their job. It's not a fair statement because even people who didn't have the govt fund their college had to pay those same taxes, some even more.

Plus, taxes that go toward paying for education expenses aren't based on your income or how long you've worked, whereas taxes for social security (which are due to be paid back to you eventually), are paid out based on how much money you've put back into the system.

I pay for a lot of things with my taxes that I will never get back. With your logic, I helped pay for your education. But I don't claim that, so it's not really fair for you to either.

That being said, I don't see anything wrong with you getting money from the government to pay for your education. More power to you for qualifying and even more for trying to better yourself.

Er... I didn't say I'd paid back many times in taxes. Mrs mandy moo said that. Although, technically, she has paid it back, whether she would have paid the taxes regardless or not. That is the whole idea behind taxes - you pay them but you can also receive from them. Of course some people receive more than they give, and others give more than they receive, but you can easily work it out and say whether you've given more or received more, which is what mrs mandy moo was doing.

Besides, with health care degrees, you're also paying back in service - that's why the government pays for them. They pay because they need people to work in health care jobs, which aren't exactly highly paid! Same with teaching. It helps benefit the country. It is seen as an exchange kind of thing.

You didn't help pay for my education, because you don't live in the UK. Your system is completely different, and so it's not really appropriate (or 'fair') for you to transfer the values of your own system and culture onto mine.

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

I'm sleep deprived today. I didn't realize that you were answering my question for her. I didn't mean to direct that comment to you.

Lol - that's okay. Mrs mandy moo also isn't in your country though - but also not in mine, so I can't answer for how her country does things!

[Always Estella|0 likes] [|reply]

I dont think you did, unless you are Australian and over 40
However, without an education there is no way I would have been able to earn the money I did to pay the taxes.
I came from a poor family and no one else had money to help me.

I am not saying I deserve the money because I pay my taxes now, however what I am saying is that it's a good investment to help welfare recipients with their education if it enables them to get a job and therefore pay taxes.

My personal situation was fairly dire.

Re the first comment, our system is different than yours. We pay the govt back directly and we pay interest on it, and there is NO tax break.

I say I got it at the govts expense because my degree wasnt charged, as it was a very new degree at the time in Aus.. nursing.

I had to put up with a lot of very random and terrible exam clashes and schedule clashes. also it was about 10x as hard as it is on some levels now!

I had a little extra welfare on top of the normal welfare, which went towards my daycare.
it would have been easier on me financially at the time to simply stay at home, as all the extra costs- travel, books, uniforms- came out of the little bit of money I had to live, just as an aside.
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mrs mandy moo