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9/11 - What's the government hiding
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2 Jun 2010, 20:42
♥Mars.Foxx
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i watched this video and i cried through most of it. i know its a documentary or what ever but everything just made sense and totally lined up, it scared me. i didn't sleep that night either. its amazing how evil people in power can be for their own benefit, its really disturbing they are the leaders of the "best government" in the world. also the religion part was SUPER interesting, i hadnt ever heard anything about that, deff. something to think about. the 9/11 thing was too much for me though. building 7 pretty much sealed the deal, the government at the very least knew it would happen and LET it happen, even prepared for it, just so we would all "band together".
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2 Jun 2010, 23:32
lithium layouts.
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Oh wow, thanks for that link. =) I've been meaning to watch Zeitgeist for a while!
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3 Jun 2010, 02:34
.miss.raditude.
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;) why thank you! I'll check it out!
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2 Jun 2010, 18:19
[accepting.change]
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Great video. I personally have always thought that 9/11 was a set up from the beginning. I remember when it happened; I had such a terrible feeling that it was all planned and done on purpose. And to this day later, I still feel the same.
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3 Jun 2010, 02:36
.miss.raditude.
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Glad you watched it and thanks for the feedback. I never really thought of 9/11 being a conspiracy theory until I watched this video.
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3 Jun 2010, 20:56
[accepting.change]
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Let me just say, this video puts a lot into your head. And it makes you think about it all.
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4 Jun 2010, 02:21
.miss.raditude.
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;)
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2 Jun 2010, 20:31
American
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Sigh. People are drowning in the conspiracy theories, aren't they? How sad. I guess it's just so hard to believe that someone else would want to do this to us. Just gotta believe we did it to ourselves. I can't stand all this Americans attacking America stuff. It's coming out a lot now, and it sickens me.
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2 Jun 2010, 20:44
♥Mars.Foxx
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since nothing has been proven, its hard to argue facts, however the information suggesting it was our own government is over whelming. staging an attack to get a country to band together toward something is not a new tactic.
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3 Jun 2010, 02:52
.miss.raditude.
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I have never been one to think about conspiracy theories...until I saw this video. I don't want to think the government would do something like this. Did you watch the video? The reason why I'm asking is there was a lot of facts that were quite disturbing. For instance, taking the bomb sniffing dogs out a few weeks before 9/11. And what about the evacuations at the WTC? Who's to say there weren't bombs set up all over the WTC....and why did the government confiscate the video tapes of all the nearby gas stations and refused to release any information until months later only to reveal a few photos, none of where an airplane went into the pentagon...
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3 Jun 2010, 22:19
American
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Possibly because it's a government investigation? Or it has to do with terrorists and they don't want anyone in the public (i.e. someone who would talk to the other terrorists) to know anything. I really couldn't tell ya, but there's a few good reasons.
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4 Jun 2010, 02:23
.miss.raditude.
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It's very possible. Good logic. But have you ever thought that the government does have stuff to hide...especially anything involving 9/11. If you did watch the video, you would know he does make several valid points.
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8 Jun 2010, 18:39
~RedFraggle~
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More to the point... do you really think the government would be capable of making hundreds of people (the ones on the planes, the ones reported missing by their families) just disappear? Without any trace? Their pictures were all over the news... where exactly could they go that no-one would have recognised them as being alive and well? Do you really think they would have agreed to faking their own deaths as part of a government conspiracy? And do you really think not one of them would have cracked and gone to the media, or phoned a family member... that the truth wouldn't have gotten out somehow?
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9 Jun 2010, 00:24
.miss.raditude.
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Did I ever say that EVERYTHING in that video was true???? No. I think he makes SEVERAL valid points. I thought you were a doctor?
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9 Jun 2010, 06:02
~RedFraggle~
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What exactly has my profession got to do with anything?

You claimed this video was evidence that 9/11 was a government conspiracy. If that WAS the case, then there are several hundred people from those planes hiding somewhere... you cannot believe in the conspiracy without believing that those people are alive somewhere. People don't just disappear into thin air! So where are they?

This is a DISCUSSION forum... if you're going to claim something like 9/11 was a government conspiracy you have to EXPECT people to question you on it, and if you want people to see your point, you should be able to answer those questions.
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9 Jun 2010, 21:31
.miss.raditude.
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Ok, you don't think the government could've paid them off? Yes it would have a lot of money involved, but a war came out of 9/11...which meant more and more money
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9 Jun 2010, 23:50
~RedFraggle~
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If someone asked you to leave your children and your family and friends and never talk to them again, allow them to believe you'd been killed in the most horrific way, would you say "OK" and take the money?

Do you really think hundreds of people would have just agreed to that for MONEY?!
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10 Jun 2010, 04:45
.miss.raditude.
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I would NOT...but do other people have that same mindset?
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10 Jun 2010, 12:34
~RedFraggle~
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I admit that there are probably a small number of people who care more about money than their own families... but HUNDREDS of people, ALL prepared to do that? Not a chance.

Do YOU really believe every single person on those planes, every single mother, father, son, daughter, would be prepared to hurt their families like that and never see them again?
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8 Jun 2010, 18:20
~RedFraggle~
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taking the bomb sniffing dogs out a few weeks before 9/11.

Maybe their investigation was complete. (And even if bombs were later planted there, that doesn't mean they were there when the investigation was taking place OR that it was the government that planted them)

And what about the evacuations at the WTC?

It's highly likely that the government had some warning of what was happening before the public knew about it, so this isn't surprising. But they likely wouldn't warn the public for fear of a mass panic.

why did the government confiscate the video tapes of all the nearby gas stations and refused to release any information until months later only to reveal a few photos, none of where an airplane went into the pentagon...

Because it was evidence from a crime scene being used as part of a murder investigation? This is surely quite standard practice. And it's impossible to tell from that poor quality video if a plane had just hit or not.
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9 Jun 2010, 00:25
.miss.raditude.
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Then HOW do YOU explain the noises and the eye witnesses who claim to have seen and heard bombs go off on random floors???
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9 Jun 2010, 06:03
~RedFraggle~
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If the building was burning, it's hardly surprising if there was smaller explosions within the building. And even if there WAS bombs in there (and I'm not saying I believe there was), that is not proof that they were put there by the government. (It would be much more likely they were planted by people working with the bombers).
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9 Jun 2010, 21:33
.miss.raditude.
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Bullshit....there were tons and tons of steel and the way the building fell makes people believe there were bombs involved. And if they were planted in the building by the bombers, how did they get in a secure government building?
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9 Jun 2010, 23:56
~RedFraggle~
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Why does the fact that there was tonnes of steel mean that other explosions couldn't have resulted from the original collision and subsequent damage? The building was full of fumes. For an explosion to occur all you need is a flammable gas and a spark. The sparks could have come from anywhere (disconnected electrics for example). It's entirely likely the explosions have a perfectly logical explanation.

And who knows how bombs could have gotten into a secure government building... how did the failed Boxing Day bomber get a bomb onto an American plane last year? No security system is fool proof.
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11 Jun 2010, 16:44
Meghans Follie
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You do realize that the DC metro train runs through the pentagon right? Almost anyone in the military could at that point get into the outer ring of the Pentagon without an escort
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