Oh, I misunderstood that that was your reasoning. Still, although some of your antibodies will be passed on, it doesn't necessarily protect her. And you would have to have either had measles, mumps and rubella (or at least been exposed to them), or the MMR vaccine, for YOU to have the antibodies in the first place.

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing, and I missed your saying you had been vaccinated. Have you had the MMR then? Most adults in the UK haven't, as it only came in about 20 years ago.

yes i've been vaccinated. and i fully understand that it won't stop her getting measles or whatever, but may help her recover from it.
i'm still researching, and definately watching this thread with my mind open.

I'm not sure i am. It's not really my area. However, I have done some reading for myself, and I cannot find any good evidence of a link between the MMR and autism. And personally I could never put my child at risk of catching a life threatening disease because of an autism link for which there is no actual evidence. I think the risk of death from measles should be taken far more seriously than a probably (never say never) non existent risk of autism from the vaccine.

I think what they're getting at is that breastfeeding contributes to a stronger immune system. Which is true. But it does not prevent a child catching measles or mumps. Only the vaccine does that.

They only say otherwise because they want something to blame.
I for one, do not believe that story. Never have done.

I do understand your concerns about autism, but I personally can't understand why you would put your child at risk of catching measles or mumps, when they could die from it, or be permanently disabled. Not over something (the autism link) which has been disproved, and is based on only a small number of personal accounts, with no medical evidence base to them. Breastfeeding does not protect from mumps or measles. It just sounds like a huge risk to take to me.

Years ago someone suggested it may have a link to autism, but it's since been disproved. Still some parents prefer to believe the media hype than the actual evidence. And there is no good evidence that the MMR causes autism.

I'm reading this book now. It's excellent.

Not sure if this is relevant to you as I don't know your choices, however a friend put off her vaccinations as she didn't want to "hurt" her baby. Just before her daughter was 2 she caught measles from some child at playgroup. They nearly lost her, as her body couldn't handle the disease... she was in ICU for weeks. And she has severe scarring, hearing problems, wears glasses now (nothing wrong with eyesight before) and is slightly delayed in development She also has a very weak immune system now, seems to catch everything going (bugs, colds). I'm not sure of specifics as I don't really talk about the nitty gritty of it with her... but measles nearly killed her little girl, because she made the choice not to vaccinate until 'later'. A slight fever at a few weeks old is definitely better than the weeks of it she had with the measles.

That is exactly what I'm talking about. I can't understand a parent risking THAT happening to their child.

If a slight fever was the only risk associated with a vaccine, you bet my daughter would be receiving it.

I think the risk of not vaccinating certainly outweighs the risk of doing so, that is for sure.
I have already decided my daughter will be vaccinated (and my partner agrees... he'd probably flip if I said otherwise!)

My daughter will be vaccinated as well, but I'm researching individual vax's to decide which ones we'll be excluding (i.e. chickenpox vaccine, Hep-B at birth).

I don't think my kids will be receiving the chickenpox vaccine either. I think that's just completely unnecessary, especially because it doesn't prevent the child from catching it anyway. And getting chicken pox as an adults (called shingles) is way worse than them catching it as a kid. And even though you can get shingles even if you've already had chicken pox, you're less likely to get it as an adult if you've had it once before than if you've never had it.

I haven't decided on the hep b thing yet. I will probably do that if I'm still working in healthcare because I am at a higher risk of catching it than most people.

That might be a good idea about the hep b vax. My mom (an ICU nurse) decided to give us the vax because she was constantly around the pathogens on a daily basis.

Agreed... I don't think the chickenpox one is necessary... I won't be pushing for that one for my baby. Same with the Hep B... although I haven't heard much about that one. If I was still working in the nursing home I probably would because I'd be concerned about what I could potentially pass on. I never had the Hep B vac until I started at the Nursing Home.

I think that's a sensible approach. I would certainly question the necessity for the chicken pox and hep B vaccines (given that in the UK they aren't even given routinely).

i really dont want to get involved, bcuz im FOR vaccinating my child. but, my sister in law didnt vaccinate her baby until he was 2, and he got a very bad case of the measles. he was extremely uncomfortable and in a lot of pain. i think its so much easier to just get them vaccinated than have them in pain if they DO catch something.

The egg thing is actually true. When I did my orientation at work I had to get a vaccination and I had to sign a form stating I wasn't allergic to eggs. According to this website it needs to be a significant allergy to eggs, though.

Yeah, I would guess they would maybe avoid it if you'd had anaphylaxis to eggs! But probably not if you just got a bit of a rash from them. According to my mum, a health visitor (a community nurse who specialises in mothers and young children, and who gives vaccines), where she works, if a child has an egg allergy, they still get the vaccine, but under 'controlled conditions', so they get it at the hospital, rather than in the GP practice. Just in case they react badly to it (although many won't).

I looked it up in our national drug formulary, and it says that in cases where a child has had anaphylaxis to egg, the vaccine should be given with caution, but that there's increasing evidence that there is no risk in these children from the vaccine. A mild allergy is not a contraindication to the vaccine.

Well, Midlands Today called it an epidemic ;D
But I know all the schools were issuing letters about it, in the same way they do with nits.

Not an epidemic. I'd look up the specific definition of 'epidemic', but I don't have time right now. Measles is back, but the number of cases is still relatively low. Just bad reporting there!

Exactly!

And you know, I am thankful for Chris's line of work/study-it took all of 5 minutes the first time I asked him about ingredient claims for him to say it's a bunch of crap-because if you're in research and you work with cell lines, you KNOW none of that makes any sense whatsoever.

Anyway, because of his work, and because of my own feelings on the matter(I love my Autistic student very much, but I believe he was born with Autism) we are absolutely vaccinating on schedule when we have a baby.
Interestingly, the courts in America just recently decided a case that really was a blow to parents who believe it-the ruling was that MMR has no link to Autism, if I am remembering it correctly. the decision has big implications for parents trying to say vaccinations have something to do with it.