It's like I said (though maybe I didn't say it in here), natural remedies may not work for every person. But mainstream medicine doesn't work for every person either. What gives anyone the right to tell anyone else they MUST use mainstream medicine, when they feel natural remedies are worth a shot? Nobody has that right, not even the government. Chemotherapy doesn't help everyone, either. In fact, people have died from chemo. Sometimes the chemo doesn't get rid of the cancer and the person dies anyway. Why is it so important to people that someone stay in line with mainstream medical practices that aren't guaranteed either?

I have personally seen how natural remedies can work better than chemotherapy in cases of cancer. I know a woman who was given six months to live, three years ago. She is still alive and kicking, and her cancer is nearly gone. She hasn't had even one session of chemotherapy, and instead has opted for the natural route. And her cancer had progressed so far they told her chemotherapy would probably only prolong her life by such a minimal amount that it wouldn't be worth it. And now where's it at? Now they don't give her an expiration date because it's nearly gone. Not because of chemo (because she didn't get any), but because of the natural remedies.

I know those of you who don't know much of anything about the natural remedies think it's ridiculous, but who are you to say they're wrong in opting out of chemotherapy and instead attempting methods that are more natural? It may not always work, but neither does chemotherapy. It's not up to anyone else to take away his rights as her parent to choose the method used. And some of us do believe there are natural cures for the same ailments we have medical treatments for, we just need to know where to look. Perhaps we've had the cure for cancer all along in the natural remedies, but because people have become so reliant on medicine we don't see it yet.

You may not agree with that, and that's your choice. But don't refuse to allow someone else their opinion and don't force them to make choices based on your opinion just because your opinion is more mainstream than theirs.

"She is still alive and kicking, and her cancer is nearly gone." Should have read ""

Let me try this yet again.

"She is still alive and kicking, and her cancer has been gone nearly two years."

what remedies was she using? if natural remedies can get rid of cancer more effectively than chemo can i wouldn't mind knowing what they are.

What you will find at the link below is the regimen she used. It's quite strict, and not something every person has the personal self discipline to do, at least until the cancer is in remission. But it worked without any form of conventional medicine. She didn't use this particular Doctor, but his "procedure" is the same as the one the Doctor she went through used.

http://www.cancernaturalcure.com/index.htm

looks interesting. diet is an intriguing thing. this sort of treatment looks like the kind of thing people should just be doing in general to be healthy, but i'm not one to comment on that as my diet is appalling.

You are exactly correct, it IS a diet people should be doing in general to be healthy. Though most people shy away from the "raw vegan" kind of diet because they still believe it's not healthy. *shrugs* To each their own, I suppose.

And even though I feel strongly about eating a healthy diet, such as is listed at the website, my diet isn't perfect either. And has been known to be appalling as well. lol

i keep trying to talk myself into eating more raw food. veggies and fruits are in their best vitamin giving form when raw, and they do taste good and just make you feel so much better. i don't even want to think about all the chemicals i consume on a daily basis. i barely touch veggies and fruits.

why do people think it isn't healthy? that's so odd. though i did do health and development for years so i guess i only consider it healthy because i know better.

I think many people think it's unhealthy mainly because of the vegan aspect of it. We have been told for so long by so many sources that we absolutely must have meat or animal products in order to have an adequate diet, and if we don't have things even like milk or eggs or cheese, we're not going to be healthy enough. Which simply is not true. Going vegan, especially RAW (which, btw, doesn't necessarily mean RAW raw...it means it hasn't been cooked over a certain temperature...160F I believe. Vegetables can still be lightly steamed, even quickly blanched) vegan, isn't something that can be done on a whim and without research, because it can be done wrong and that will cause health problems. But if done properly, you can live a healthier life without the meat than those who live with the meat.

The one sentence doesn't make sense.

"It is quite strict, at least until the cancer is in remission. And not something every person has the personal self discipline to do."

There, that makes more sense.

I think it's one thing for an adult to make that choice for themselves, but I think it's different when it's a child. And I believe doctors have a duty to do what medical evidence suggests is best for that child. Sure, maybe one day there will be evidence for natural therapies in cancer, but at the moment there isn't and no doctor is going to risk a child's life on a treatment for which there is no evidence of effectiveness when there's drugs available which we know do work.

I find it really amusing when there are people on here who have diabetes and live through it and then there are the people who tell them useless crap like they don't know anything. Amusing.

I find it amusing how passive aggressive you are in your insults.

I'm sorry, but I DO know people that have diabetes and they HAVE to take insulin or they WILL die. I don't think it has anything to do with being "mainstream". Maybe I should stop taking my heart medication since I rely on that too much, then we'll see what happens, won't we?

I'm sorry, but I DO know people with T1 diabetes that have reversed it using alternative medicine, in otherwords NATURAL remedies. Just because you don't think it can happen doesn't mean it can't. I simply told her something she DIDN'T know, and I sent her links to look into it further. If she chooses not to try it, that's fine. But people seem to have this idea that we MUST use mainstream medicine to get and stay healthy, and those who choose alternative methods get ridiculed like they're idiots.

Another thing, once you're already dependent on the insulin injections, you need to keep taking those WHILE doing the alternative methods until you get to the point where you're not dependent on it. I'm not saying stop taking the medication you are already on. If you're already dependent on medication, BY ALL MEANS continue to take it WHILE doing the alternative methods (as long as they don't counteract each other, in which case I'll say just continue with the medication). But people have had very severe T1 diabetes, continued using their insulin while doing the natural alternatives, and decreased their daily need for insulin, AND have been able to reverse it completely to the point where they no longer need the insulin injections.

I AM NOT saying to stop taking your medication if you are already taking medication. But don't be so closed off to the idea of a natural remedy that you don't even look into it. Because you may find by looking into it that at some point in time, you may be able to stop taking your medication. Or at the very least, stop being as dependent on it.

So no, don't stop taking your heart medication. But if there is an alternative intervention for it, wouldn't you at least be interested in looking over it?

I fully intend to look at the links you provided. Thank you for doing so. That being said, I feel like I have to say something else.

It's not alternative methods I ridicule, but the people who sit back and do absolutely nothing to treat a disease that can be treated. Those people are indeed idiots. I'm a big believer in having faith. I think faith is awesome. And I think it's important to have faith in something, because that's what life is basically all about. But to sit back and let your eight year old die because you refuse to get her treatment is ridiculous.

And, since I've been dragged back into this, I feel I must add that I'm not the only diabetic on this site, and Mindi's post wasn't about me exclusively.

I agree about that man with the daughter with diabetes. He wasn't trying ANY form of intervention for her (mainstream of alternative....other than prayer), and that I do have a BIG problem with.

Reversed it?? As in their pancreas started producing insulin?

Kind of strayed from the main point of the thread.

My point is no one has the right to take away this father's right to choose alternative treatments for his daughter over mainstream treatments. Alternative medicine DOES work, and he's not an idiot or unfit to be a parent because he chooses this route rather than pumping his daughter full of toxins. And since the alternative medicine they have been doing so far has been working, why NOT let them continue?

And Lavender Breeze I completely agree with all the points you've said here.

good grief people.. theres no need to be rude.
mainstream medicine doesn't work on everyone... there is no 'one size fits all' for medicine. why is that so hard to believe?

I was diagnosed with cancer almost two years ago and I had chemotherapy (and radiotherapy) - I am now in remission and have been for just over a year. Once I reach 5 years in remission, I am classed as cured from cancer.
Chemo was not pleasant, but it saved my life and I just don't think that I could have risked trying natural medicine. Maybe if chemo and radiotherapy didn't work, I would have considered other things because I would have done anything to not let it beat me. But as a first choice, no way. I was too scared of dying! lol.

But that was your choice. No one tried to take that away from you. But it seems that people are trying to take that choice away from this family. They feel the risk of chemo far outweighs the risk without it, and that is their choice. I personally would try the natural therapies first, considering that the natural therapies help your immune system and help it to work FOR you and WITH you, and if you do chemo first, your immune system is destroyed so there is nothing for the natural therapies to work with. But again, it is a choice. One that each person faced with that decision should be allowed to make without being called names or having that right taken away from them.