email from a friend about gays and my response

04/18/2012

my friend Bob



Dude, I am going to run this by you and be honest. I had a gay guy stand nose to nose with me in the subway today and it pissed me off.
So I went on Facebook and started a rant. I'm sorry man, but gay community has issues that don't make them qualified to stand on a soapbox and determine the culture wars.
It's like moses coming down from the mountain. Realizing that all his followers had started worshipping the golden calf. I see a lot of this these days, people victimizing other people in social services, in social context. It's like everyone thinks they are the most important motherfucker on the planet and their needs are tantamount to anyone else's.
Some segments of this population suffer in utter silence, the exploited worker, the disabled, etc...... why is it so important that sexual preference has some sort of monopoly on the social conversation. It's my same argument with abortion, don't you people have better things to do? To me it is as if the goddamn issues that they have some effect on are completely blindsided to the fact that in the grand scheme of things they have some sort of power. What about addressing the 10,000 small injustices that lead to the big ones instead of jumping on bandwagons with broad and vast social context. Your gay? Who fucking cares. You support or oppose abortion? Big fucking deal who fucking cares.
And gay people beat each other and have terrible substance abuse issues as well, so why in hell is it so important that you have rights? Rights to what. The same fucking problem heterosexual couples have had for millenniums? Big fucking deal. Should I collude with your circumstance with empathy? In the parameters of religious context your committing sodomy. I don't define that the bible does. So if you act out of the context of the basic tenants of a religion why in hell should I have any empathy. That shit is the fucking law to most religious people. Meanwhile I have a friend a dear friend up in Maine who claims he is an orthodox christian homosexual? That to me is like jumbo shrimp, complete hypocrisy. He needs a good therapist and get himself out the weed induced haze he is fucking delusional if he even believes that that is possible within the context of what is outlined in the laws of religion. Yet everywhere I turn I see this shit, a bunch of pissed off people swinging their broadswords through the fucking cornfield on their soapbox saying their rights are violated. Christ engage already, get out of the argument and into the soup kitchen, and also clean up your fucking stoop. What am I on fucking Mars?

Your opinion"?

Thanks,

Bob

My response

My opinions are my opinions alone.
This particular topic crosses many lines that people don’t cross in public. You spoke of religion, politics and human rights.

Being gay is not a choice, it is biological.
Can we agree on that?

Religion is a choice.
Can we agree on that?

As it pertains to religion, you are seeing it black-white with no gray.
What you are saying is, someone who is biologically gay can not choose to practice Christianity completely. It is this which had shamed so many gay people since the beginning of Christianity.

In my opinion, someone can be gay and follow Christianity.
* there is no issues with gay in the Jewish religion

“gay community has issues that don't make them qualified to stand on a soapbox and determine the culture wars.”

No matter the topic-issue we talk about, there are always the extremist. These people are in your face, loud and demonstrate in a way that hurts others. Let’s Put those people aside.

Gay people just want the same rights that you and I have. Currently, even in the year 2012, they don’t. In some states, they can’t be married that is recognized by the indivisual state. They do not get the same tax breaks being a married couple. They don’t get the same mortgage loans and many other things. The regular gay community just wants those same rights as you and I.

Gay as it pertains to a culture

I will not pretend I understand this completely but there is a culture of gay people. Not every gay person believes in this culture. However, it does go beyond the bedroom.

When they are holding hands with their partner, they don’t want someone to look at them funny. When they are wearing make up or don’’t have any body hair, they don’t want to be looked at as different.

I guess a lot of this has to deal with gay people apose to lesbians which, intill the last paragraph, I used gay as a general term.

Lesbians are a lot more accepted than gay men in public

However, my own sister found someone who loves her who just so happens to be a woman. It pains me that my parents still has not accepted it fully and I’m not sure they ever will. To me, I am extremely happy my sister found love and happiness. Something I only dream of.

I will respect if you don’t agree with my opinions.

Don’t let the few extremist spoil your opinion on the rest of the gays.